"Old School" Reference Reveled!
Nov. 20th, 2004 11:37 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
dolphins_logIn my review of "The Incredibles", which I posted on November 7th,
I said.
"I think the two old guys at the end, who say "that's how you do it, old school", are caricatures of someone, though I haven't figured out who yet. It might be reference to the Pixar crew having been trained at Cal Arts, the school envisioned and built by Disney."
Disney Magazine gave us the answer, and I was close. The two people are indeed caricatures. They were Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, two of the "Nine Old Men", the name Walt dubbed the nine most prolific animators in the studio. They were the core animators of Walt's first animated feature "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". Frank Thomas just died September 8th, and Ollie is the last of the nine still alive. Their connection with CalArts is that they taught some classes there. All of the nine took a stint in the school at one time or another. They were connected with the movie because the director, and voice of Edna Mode, Brad Bird, wanted to tip his hat to them for their contribution to animation. He did the same thing with his movie "Iron Giant". Now I have to watch that movie and try to spot Frank and Ollie.
The Nine Old Men were;
Les Clark
Ollie Johnston
Frank Thomas
Wolfgang "Woolie" Reitherman
John Lounsbery
Eric Larson
Ward Kimball
Milt Kahl
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miko2's namesake,
Marc Davis
So! The answer is reveled! Yay for the Great Ones!
I said.
"I think the two old guys at the end, who say "that's how you do it, old school", are caricatures of someone, though I haven't figured out who yet. It might be reference to the Pixar crew having been trained at Cal Arts, the school envisioned and built by Disney."
Disney Magazine gave us the answer, and I was close. The two people are indeed caricatures. They were Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, two of the "Nine Old Men", the name Walt dubbed the nine most prolific animators in the studio. They were the core animators of Walt's first animated feature "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs". Frank Thomas just died September 8th, and Ollie is the last of the nine still alive. Their connection with CalArts is that they taught some classes there. All of the nine took a stint in the school at one time or another. They were connected with the movie because the director, and voice of Edna Mode, Brad Bird, wanted to tip his hat to them for their contribution to animation. He did the same thing with his movie "Iron Giant". Now I have to watch that movie and try to spot Frank and Ollie.
The Nine Old Men were;
Les Clark
Ollie Johnston
Frank Thomas
Wolfgang "Woolie" Reitherman
John Lounsbery
Eric Larson
Ward Kimball
Milt Kahl
And
miko2's namesake,Marc Davis
So! The answer is reveled! Yay for the Great Ones!
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Nine Old Men.
Date: 2004-11-20 09:05 pm (UTC)Animation is getting to be a bit of a lost art. With the grand masters passing away, and with traditional drawn animation not as vogue as it once was. Some of their knowledge luckily has been captured in a book.
Title: The Animators Survival Kit
ISBN: 0-57120-228-4
Author: Richard Williams
Richard has been fortunate enough to work with many of the masters and was worried that much of their knowledge would be lost with their passing. Many luminaries of the industry are mentioned in the book. Its good that they've been recognized for all the work they've done in the industry and their contributions.
I don't recall seeing them in Iron Giant but I'll have to watch it again myself and see where they appear.
Re: Nine Old Men.
Date: 2004-11-21 01:33 pm (UTC)[quote from http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0129167/trivia]
"Frank" and "Ollie", the two trainmen that Kent interviews after the derailment, are caricatures of Disney classic animators Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, but they also perform the voices for the characters. Animation writer Earl Kress has said "that Frank and Ollie are also life-long train enthusiasts and have extensive scale model railroads in their backyards like Walt Disney used to have."